Once, he suddenly found himself on the street herding up a small herd of goats that he didn`t know or know where he got them from. Samuel Johnson certainly seemed to think so. In his A Dictionary of the English Language, published in 1755, he invoked “an evil language.” The beautifully complex beef stew takes its name from the east-central region of France where it originated. — Ratha Tep, The Wall Street Journal January 19, 2013 In a book published in Newfoundland, she read that a boy`s mother told her that people`s freckles were washed away by prolonged rains; Freckles swam in puddles, from where unwary children filled and spoiled their dinner. — Annie Dillard, Harper`s, November 2003 Britannica English: Translation from where for Arabic speakers The colonel and his two friends returned to the south, where they came from. Your choice of words can reveal a lot about your origin. But a new study shows that your speed and cadence of words can also be used to tell where you`re coming from. — Marissa Fessenden, Smithsonian.com, February 5, 2016 Where does “where, source or cause come from?” Does this mean that the statement “from when” is false? Then the man got dressed, got back on his bike and walked away from where he came from. Several guards moved around the vehicle, demanding where it came from and what the object was from the people inside. The Rams` departure for Los Angeles, where they came from two decades ago, is something the city`s residents should applaud, not lament.

— Joe Nocera, The New York Times, January 15, 2016 These sample sentences are automatically selected from various online news sources to reflect the current use of the word “where”. The views expressed in the examples do not represent the views of Merriam-Webster or its editors. Send us your feedback. O bad presumption, where do you come from to cover the earth with your wickedness and deception? Egyptians leave the country to look for work elsewhere, from where they can send remittances home. On an annual trip to the South by Southwest music festival in Austin, Texas, they heard a band they loved. Where does this climber come from? San Francisco. — Chloe Roth, The San Francisco Chronicle, August 4, 2011 To sum it up – if you`re not sure which one to use, stick to the most common form (hence this). If there is a strong sense of starting from there or from where in your context, use from there or when. on my way to Constantinople, from which I have written to you.

—Lord Byron, letter, 30. July 1810 It was not a compliment, though vicious, as we now write it, was a little sweeter at the time; He mostly described very bad habits. Johnson himself occasionally fell into this habit, according to his biographer: Jonah`s shipmates wondered what he had done to cause the calamity of a great storm upon them. Since he was a stranger, they simply assumed it was his fault. Then they asked, “Hey, where are you from?” See Jonah 1:8. KJV And where was this magical land of Khorasan, where would the conquerors come from? These are easy to obtain, so follow the grim narratives they give to Your Majesty at the expense of the common good. Poor Sam. We hope he is not too much himself. The fact is that he was in good company. Many respected writers before and after Johnson used when: ([here is] a stated fact) so we deduce (another fact) (i.e. – “from this fact here”) (a statement) from there we derive (a fact) (i.e.

– “from that statement you just read there”) (a statement) from where we (some facts) (i.e. – from where = where) Half an hour later, She was on stage, She strutted into a sequined catsuit and returned to the orbit she came from. — David Amsden, W Magazine, February 3, 2016. addressed to this place from which it is transmitted to me. — Lord Byron, letter, August 31, 1809 “Then they said to him, `Tell us, we pray thee, for whose cause this evil is upon us; What is your job? And where are you from? What is your country? And what people are you from? So, like a good troll, please go back under the bridge you came from. Samuel Johnson, grimacing here at a contemporary`s use of the phrase “from where,” called it “a vicious way of speaking.” off the island of Cyprus. from where they should sail in a day or two. — Jane Austen, letter, November 1, 1800 You won`t see where they come from as often these days, but (I hope these examples show) it can sometimes be used in contexts where one or both would be perfectly acceptable. Sittingbourne from where we had a famous pair of horses. — Jane Austen, letter, October 24, 1798 As in past centuries, from which we sometimes find in the 21st with and sometimes not: Let them be whipped through all the market towns until they arrive at Berwick, whence they came. — Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part 2, 1592 It is no longer exclusively the domain of the “ghetto” from which it came.

here, there, where; Therefore, then, when; Where I encountered cases where I felt it was acceptable to use both. The dictionary definition doesn`t provide much clarity either. Could someone clarify the differences between the two? The fact is that the expression and the simple adverb have been used for centuries, and there is nothing wrong with either. Whatever condemnations are sometimes made, where is it well established, and you should feel free to use it or not. We won`t consider you malicious anyway. But at any point in a written text, here could include the entire book you`re reading, and it could simply mean the previous sentence or sentence. And where/where/from where can always refer to everything that has been written before (usually the immediately preceding statement). Nothing is served; no tea, no coffee, no lemonade, no anything; and count on her, Lord, a man does not like to go to a place from which he comes out exactly as he entered – Samuel Johnson, quoted in Boswell`s The Life of Samuel Johnson, 1791 Middle English whennes, from whenne where (from Old English hwanon) + -s, adverb suffix, from -s, genitive singular; similar to the Old High German hwanÄn hence the Old English hwÄ which Daher, from there and there significant.

Join our community to access the latest language learning and assessment tips from Oxford University Press! Since the usages are all metaphorical, the “place” of the “statement” (or the thing to which the statement refers) is somewhat uncertain. In speech/physical space, the difference between “Here it is!” and “Here it is!” may simply depend on pointing your finger or spreading your hands as you speak. Find out which words work together and create more natural English with the Oxford Collocations Dictionary app. “I`m sorry, but I just ran out of time. So I couldn`t pick up your dry cleaning for you. Let`s say you know what it means here, there and where. I recommend the following pages for good grammatical information: Find the answers with Practical English Usage online, your go-to guide to problems in English. As @tchrist comments, you need to consider the three groups of three:. “Wanne” means “from where”. It does not replace “therefore”. Its meaning is nowhere for “therefore”. Where is an old-fashioned word for where or from where? But in practice, the latter sets in all contexts are quite obsolete/archaic forms, and the intermediate set is usually only used metaphorically today.

Some of these authors have sometimes preferred the simple adverb: once you stop thinking about the fact that usage is metaphorical, it should become clear. Here are some written examples from Google Books. Therefore, this is best illustrated with a bit of algebra: X > Y; Z Z.